What does happen or what happens (2025)

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AzzahSalem

New Member

Arabic

  • Nov 10, 2013
  • #1

good evening
I have a question and i am not sure if the form of the question is correct or not

The question is ;

What does happen to the leaves in autumn?

is it correct in form or not

Thanks alot

  • Andygc

    Senior Member

    Devon

    British English

    • Nov 10, 2013
    • #2

    AzzahSalem

    Perhaps you could explain what it is you are not sure about in this sentence? It is also essential for us to understand what you want it to mean, particularly as your thread title includes "what happens", but your question does not.

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    AzzahSalem

    New Member

    Arabic

    • Nov 10, 2013
    • #3

    yes , i'm not sure of the structure of the question - in other words , is it grammatically correct to say
    What does happen to the leaves in autumn ?
    or
    is it better to say
    What happens to the leaves in autumn?

    thanks

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    Hildy1

    Senior Member

    English - US and Canada

    • Nov 10, 2013
    • #4

    It is not a question of grammar; both sentences are grammatically correct, but the meaning is different.

    If you are just bringing up the subject, you would say:
    "What happens to the leaves in autumn?"

    But if someone tells you that the leaves are taken away by a gnome with a wheelbarrow, you might say:
    "I know that isn't true. What does happen to the leaves in autumn?" with a slight emphasis on the word "does".
    The use of "does + infinitive" means: what really happens?

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    AzzahSalem

    New Member

    Arabic

    • Nov 10, 2013
    • #5

    thanks alot that's really helpful
    but what if i say
    What do happen to the leaves in autumn?
    is it also correct (regarding the word

    leaves

    because it's plural - i used do ))
    because the answer will be
    The leaves fall in autumn .

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    Liam Lew's

    Senior Member

    Hamburg, Germany

    German

    • Nov 10, 2013
    • #6

    To my mind it's incorrect. The verb refers to "what". You might also omit "to the leaves". What does happen?

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    AzzahSalem

    New Member

    Arabic

    • Nov 10, 2013
    • #7

    Why What does happen or what happens (2)
    The whole question is about the leaves !!

    thanks alot

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    AzzahSalem

    New Member

    Arabic

    • Nov 11, 2013
    • #8

    AzzahSalem said:

    thanks alot that's really helpful
    but what if i say
    What do happen to the leaves in autumn?
    is it also correct (regarding the word

    leaves

    because it's plural - i used do ))
    because the answer will be
    The leaves fall in autumn .

    Florentia52

    Modwoman in the attic

    Wisconsin

    English - United States

    • Nov 12, 2013
    • #9

    If "What does happen to the leaves in autumn?" is correct, then "What do happen to the leaves in autumn?" can not be correct. The subject is either singular or plural. In this case, it's singular ("what").

    The sentence may be all about the leaves, but "leaves" can not be the subject, because the leaves aren't happening. Something is happening to them.

    JamesM

    Senior Member

    Los Angeles, California

    English, USA

    • Nov 12, 2013
    • #10

    To think of it another way, you would say "This is what happens", not "These are what happens". The subject is singular; "it", not "they", happens to the leaves.

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    Liam Lew's

    Senior Member

    Hamburg, Germany

    German

    • Nov 12, 2013
    • #11

    Let's contrast it a little bit:

    1. What do the leaves do in autumn/What does the leaf do in autumn? --- 2. What does happen to the leaf/leaves in autumn?

    In 1. we have the verb "do". The leaves/leaf carry the action of the verb "do", and are therefore the subject. And therefore "do" changes to "does" if only one leaf is involved. In 2. the thing that happens carries the action of the verb and is therefore the subject. The "to" also indicates that what is following is an indirect object and can't be the subject. That's also what I meant with omitting "to the leaves". It simply doesn't matter here.

    In 1. the "what" is an object. So as you see it depends on the verb and on what is carrying the action of the verb.

    JamesM

    Senior Member

    Los Angeles, California

    English, USA

    • Nov 12, 2013
    • #12

    I would call "what" in 1 the interrogative pronoun. As for omitting "to the leaves" I can agree that it doesn't make the structure ungrammatical to do so but it does alter the meaning entirely. The answer to "What does happen in autumn?" could be all sorts of things. "What does happen to the leaves in autumn?" directs attention to a specific subject.

    Loob

    Senior Member

    English UK

    • Nov 12, 2013
    • #13

    It strikes me that AzzahSalem may, simply, be asking whether we need to use the auxiliary "do" in a question which begins with the interrogative word "What".

    If that is his question, then the answer is "If What is the subject of the verb, then we don't usually use the auxiliary".

    Compare, for example (highlighting the subject of the verb in red):
    What happened? (no auxiliary)
    and
    What did he see?

    JamesM

    Senior Member

    Los Angeles, California

    English, USA

    • Nov 13, 2013
    • #14

    Ah! I apologize for being so dense. Of course.

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    AzzahSalem

    New Member

    Arabic

    • Nov 13, 2013
    • #15

    Florentia52 said:

    If "What does happen to the leaves in autumn?" is correct, then "What do happen to the leaves in autumn?" can not be correct. The subject is either singular or plural. In this case, it's singular ("what").

    The sentence may be all about the leaves, but "leaves" can not be the subject, because the leaves aren't happening. Something is happening to them.

    Yes that's what I'm saying
    so the subject is What and it's singular
    thank you very much

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    AzzahSalem

    New Member

    Arabic

    • Nov 13, 2013
    • #16

    Liam Lew's said:

    Let's contrast it a little bit:

    1. What do the leaves do in autumn/What does the leaf do in autumn? --- 2. What does happen to the leaf/leaves in autumn?

    In 1. we have the verb "do". The leaves/leaf carry the action of the verb "do", and are therefore the subject. And therefore "do" changes to "does" if only one leaf is involved. In 2. the thing that happens carries the action of the verb and is therefore the subject. The "to" also indicates that what is following is an indirect object and can't be the subject. That's also what I meant with omitting "to the leaves". It simply doesn't matter here.

    In 1. the "what" is an object. So as you see it depends on the verb and on what is carrying the action of the verb.

    exactly thanks Liam Lew's for the detailed answer i really appreciate it alot

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    AzzahSalem

    New Member

    Arabic

    • Nov 13, 2013
    • #17

    JamesM said:

    Ah! I apologize for being so dense. Of course.

    JamesM please don't apologize I really appreciate your answer and of course i benefit from all the answers here
    thank you very very much for being so denseWhat does happen or what happens (8)

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    AzzahSalem

    New Member

    Arabic

    • Nov 13, 2013
    • #18

    Loob said:

    It strikes me that AzzahSalem may, simply, be asking whether we need to use the auxiliary "do" in a question which begins with the interrogative word "What".

    If that is his question, then the answer is "If What is the subject of the verb, then we don't usually use the auxiliary".

    Compare, for example (highlighting the subject of the verb in red):
    What happened? (no auxiliary)
    and
    What did he see?

    so If What is the subject of the verb, then we don't usually use the auxiliary"
    it means that in my case both forms of questions maybe correct
    What happens to the leaves in autumn?
    and
    What does happen to the leaves in autumn?

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    Giorgio Spizzi

    Senior Member

    Italian

    • Nov 13, 2013
    • #19

    No, "what" being the subject, the only correct form is "What happens to the leaves in autumn?"
    If "what" were not the subject, we'd have, e.g., "What did you do to the leaves?", where "you" is the subject.

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    Loob

    Senior Member

    English UK

    • Nov 13, 2013
    • #20

    AzzahSalem said:

    so If What is the subject of the verb, then we don't usually use the auxiliary"
    it means that in my case both forms of questions maybe correct
    What happens to the leaves in autumn?
    and
    What does happen to the leaves in autumn?

    What does happen or what happens (12)

    Just to reinforce/supplement Giorgio's answer:

    Since "what" in your sentence is the subject of the verb, the normal/unmarked version of the question is "What happens...?"

    We would only use the emphatic "What

    does

    happen...?" in unusual circumstances, such as those described by Hildy in post 4.

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    AzzahSalem

    New Member

    Arabic

    • Nov 13, 2013
    • #21

    Giorgio Spizzi said:

    No, "what" being the subject, the only correct form is "What happens to the leaves in autumn?"
    If "what" were not the subject, we'd have, e.g., "What did you do to the leaves?", where "you" is the subject.

    GS What does happen or what happens (13)

    Thanks alot Giorgio Spizzi
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    AzzahSalem

    New Member

    Arabic

    • Nov 13, 2013
    • #22

    Loob said:

    Just to reinforce/supplement Giorgio's answer:

    Since "what" in your sentence is the subject of the verb, the normal/unmarked version of the question is "What happens...?"

    We would only use the emphatic "What

    does

    happen...?" in unusual circumstances, such as those described by Hildy in post 4.

    Thanks alot for that
    i really appreciate your help and detailed answers ;all of you
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    Ivan_I

    Banned

    Russian

    • Dec 26, 2018
    • #23

    Is it necessary to use THE with leaves?

    What happens to leaves in autumn? Wouldn't it be OK?

    AnythingGoes

    Senior Member

    English - USA (Midwest/Appalachia)

    • Dec 26, 2018
    • #24

    Ivan_I said:

    Is it necessary to use THE with leaves?

    What happens to leaves in autumn? Would

    n't

    it be OK?

    Yes, that's OK. With the definite article we understand the question to apply to all leaves; without it, it's asking us to discuss what happens to various kinds of leaves.

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    Ivan_I

    Banned

    Russian

    • Dec 26, 2018
    • #25

    AnythingGoes said:

    With the definite article we understand the question to apply to all leaves.

    All leaves in the world?

    AnythingGoes

    Senior Member

    English - USA (Midwest/Appalachia)

    • Dec 26, 2018
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